26 October 2008

The Singularity will go mainstream

Filed under: AGI, brain simulation, cryonics, Moore's Law, robots, Singularity — David Wood @ 1:49 pm

The concept of the coming technological singularity is going to enter mainstream discourse, and won’t go away. It will stop being something that can be dismissed as freaky or outlandish – something that is of interest only to marginal types and radical thinkers. Instead, it’s going to become something that every serious discussion of the future is going to have to contemplate. Writing a long-term business plan – or a long-term political agenda – without covering the singularity as one of the key topics, is increasingly going to become a sign of incompetence. We can imagine the responses, just a few years from now: “Your plan lacks a section on how the onset of the singularity is going to affect the take-up of your product. So I can’t take this proposal seriously”. And: “You’ve analysed five trends that will impact the future of our company, but you haven’t included the singularity – so everything else you say is suspect.”

In short, that’s the main realisation I reached by attending the Singularity Summit 2008 yesterday, in the Montgomery Theater in San Jose. As the day progressed, the evidence mounted up that the arguments in favour of the singularity will be increasingly persuasive, to wider and wider groups of people. Whether or not the singularity will actually happen is a slightly different question, but it’s no longer going to be possible to dismiss the concept of the singularity as irrelevant or implausible.

To back up my assertion, here are some of the highlights of what was a very full day:

Intel’s CTO and Corporate VP Justin Rattner spoke about “Countdown to Singularity: accelerating the pace of technological innovation at Intel”. He described a series of technological breakthroughs that would be likely to keep Moore’s Law operational until at least 2020, and he listed ideas for how it could be extended even beyond that. Rattner clearly has a deep understanding of the technology of semiconductors.

Dharmendra Modha, the manager of IBM’s cognitive computing lab at Almaden, explained how his lab had already utilised IBM super-computers to simulate an entire rat brain, with the simulation running at one tenth of real-time speed. He explained his reasons for expecting that his lab should be emable to simular an entire human brain, running at full speed, by 2018. This was possible as a result of the confluence of “three hard disruptive trends”:

  1. Neuroscience has matured
  2. Supercomputing meets the brain
  3. Nanotechnology meets the brain.

Cynthia Breazeal, Associate Professor of Media Arts and Sciences, MIT, drew spontaneous applause from the audience part-way through her talk, by showing a video of one of her socially responsive robots, Leonardo. The video showed Leonardo acting on beliefs about what various humans themselves believed (including beliefs that Leonardo could deduce were false). As Breazeal explained:

  • Up till recently, robotics has been about robots interacting with things (such as helping to manufacture cars)
  • In her work, robotics is about robots interacting with people in order to do things. Because humans are profoundly social, these robots will also have to be profoundly social – they are being designed to relate to humans in psychological terms. Hence the expressions of emotion on Leonardo’s face (and the other body language).

Marshall Brain, founder of “How Stuff Works”, also spoke about robots, and the trend for them to take over work tasks previously done by humans: MacDonalds waitresses, Wal-Mart shop assistants, vehicle drivers, construction workers, teachers…

James Miller, Associate Professor of Economics, Smith College, explicitly addressed the topic of how increasing belief in the likelihood of an oncoming singularity would change people’s investment decisions. Once people realise that, within (say) 20-30 years, the world could be transformed into something akin to paradise, with much greater lifespans and with abundant opportunities for extremely rich experiences, many will take much greater care than before to seek to live to reach that event. Interest in cryonics is likely to boom – since people can reason their bodies will only need to be vitrified for a short period of time, rather than having to trust their descendants to look after them for unknown hundreds of years. People will shun dangerous activities. They’ll also avoid locking money into long-term investments. And they’ll abstain from lengthy training courses (for example, to master a foreign language) if they believe that technology will shortly render as irrelevant all the sweat of that arduous learning.

Not every speaker was optimistic. Well-known author and science journalist John Horgan gave examples of where the progress of science and technology has been, not exponential, but flat:

  • nuclear fusion
  • ending infectious diseases
  • Richard Nixon’s “war on cancer”
  • gene therapy treatments
  • treating mental illness.

Horgan chided advocates of the singularity for their use of “rhetoric that is more appropriate to religion than science” – thereby risking damaging the standing of science at a time when science needs as much public support as it can get.

Ray Kurzweil, author of “The Singularity is Near”, responded to this by agreeing that not every technology progresses exponentially. However, those that become information sciences do experience significant growth. As medicine and health increasingly become digital information sciences, they are experiencing the same effect. Although in the past I’ve thought that Kurzweil sometimes overstates his case, on this occasion I thought he spoke with clarity and restraint, and with good evidence to back up his claims. He also presented updated versions of the graphs from his book. In the book, these graphs tended to stop around 2002. The slides Kurzweil showed at the summit continued up to 2007. It does appear that the rate of progress with information sciences is continuing to accelerate.

Earlier in the day, science fiction author and former maths and computing science professor Vernor Vinge gave his own explanation for this continuing progress:

Around the world, in many fields of industry, there are hundreds of thousands of people who are bringing the singularity closer, through the improvements they’re bringing about in their own fields of research – such as enhanced human-computer interfaces. They mainly don’t realise they are advancing the singularity – they’re not working to an agreed overriding vision for their work. Instead, they’re doing what they’re doing because of the enormous incremental economic plus of their work.

Under questioning by CNBC editor and reporter Bob Pisani, Vinge said that he sticks with the forecast he made many years ago, that the singularity would (“barring major human disasters”) happen by 2030. Vinge also noted that rapidly improving technology made the future very hard to predict with any certainty. “Classic trendline analysis is seriously doomed.” Planning should therefore focus on scenario evaluation rather than trend lines. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Vinge suggested that more forecasters should read science fiction, where scenarios can be developed and explored. (Since I’m midway through reading and enjoying Vinge’s own most recent novel, “Rainbows End” – set in 2025 – I agree!)

Director of Research at the Singularity Institute, Ben Goertzel, described a staircase of potential applications for the “OpenCog” system of “Artificial General Intelligence” he has been developing with co-workers (partially funded by Google, via the Google Summer of Code):

  • Teaching virtual dogs to dance
  • Teaching virtual parrots to talk
  • Nurturing virtual babies
  • Training virtual scientists that can read vast swathes of academic papers on your behalf
  • And more…

Founder and CSO of Innerspace Foundation, Pete Estep, gave perhaps one of the most thought-provoking presentations. The goal of Innerspace is, in short, to improve brain functioning. In more detail, “To establish bi-directional communication between the mind and external storage devices.” Quoting from the FAQ on the Innerspace site:

The IF [Innerspace Foundation] is dedicated to the improvement of human mind and memory. Even when the brain operates at peak performance learning is slow and arduous, and memory is limited and faulty. Unfortunately, other of the brain’s important functions are similarly challenged in our complex modern world. As we age, these already limited abilities and faculties erode and fail. The IF supports and accelerates basic and applied research and development for improvements in these areas. The long-term goal of the foundation is to establish relatively seamless two-way communication between people and external devices possessing clear data storage and computational advantages over the human brain.

Estep explained that he was a singularity agnostic: “it’s beyond my intellectual powers to decide if a singularity within 20 years is feasible”. However, he emphasised that it is evident to him that “the singularity might be near”. And this changes everything. Throughout history, and extending round the world even today, “there have been too many baseless fantasies and unreasonable rationalisations about the desirability of death”. The probable imminence of the singularity will help people to “escape” from these mind-binds – and to take a more vigorous and proactive stance towards planning and actually building desirable new technology. The singularity that Estep desires is one, not of super-powerful machine intelligence, but one of “AI+BCI: AI combined with a brain-computer interface”. This echoed words from robotics pioneer Hans Moravec that Vernor Vinge had reported earlier in the day:

“It’s not a singularity if you are riding the curve. And I intend to ride the curve.”

On the question of how to proactively improve the chances for beneficial technological development, Peter Diamandis spoke outstandingly well. He’s the founder of the X-Prize Foundation. I confess I hadn’t previously realised anything like the scale and the accomplishment of this Foundation. It was an eye-opener – as, indeed, was the whole day.



  1. Hi David

    Fascinating stuff.

    Was there any discussion about whether there may be bottlenecks in communication capacity that hinder progress towards the singularity?

    I have a sneaking suspicion that hard limitations on the amount of wireless spectrum, its range/penetration and interference characteristics, and the power needed to use it, may act as brakes on the possibility of various subsystems like nanomachines interacting.


    Comment by Dean Bubley — 27 October 2008 @ 10:29 am

  2. Hi Dean,

    Justin Rattner did have a few slides about “Digital multi-radio”, in which he described changing some of the the remaining few analog parts of radios into digital equivalents.

    He said this was a necessary step to supporting “7 trillion” such radios (“an average of a 1000 for each person on the planet).

    But the talk was going at high pace and that’s about the limit of what I understood from that part. I hear that the videos will be available online in the next few months. However, I think the questions you raise are outside of what the talk actually covered.

    // dw2-0

    Comment by David Wood — 27 October 2008 @ 11:16 am

  3. Singularity (Wireless Spectrum): I don’t see an issue on spectrum management.
    For Short range communication UWB (Ultra Wide Band)is a likely candidate. Range is short and power is low 1 micro Watt. The upper UWB is 6-10GHz. Power is spread over 500Mhz. UWB is using DR with spread spectrum algorithms and that lowers the signal level near ambient noise.


    Comment by H3 — 27 October 2008 @ 8:34 pm

  4. Hi David,

    Great news! Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences. The future of singularity is accelerating rapidly. It seems that a lot of knowledge and intelligence will be brought down to the nano-robot level.

    Interesting that X-prize foundation is present.

    ‘ The mission of the X PRIZE Foundation is to bring about radical breakthroughs for the benefit of humanity. We do this by creating and managing prizes that drive innovators to solve some of the greatest challenges facing the world today.’

    Arianna Haffington (Stassinopoulos) is in the BoD of the X-Prize. Arianna was the first woman to become president of Cambridge debate society in the 70′. Wife of former Californian congressman, she is well connected in the US. They have raised substantial backing till know. Peter Diamandis is a great visionary and entrepreneur.

    Recently Peter D. brought Prof. Hawking to experience zero-G in a flight.


    X-Prize are looking in exploration of space as well deep oceans for new energy sources. They want to use robots to map deep ocean resources. Only methane hydrate, in solid form, beneath ocean floors can account 10 to 50 times or even more, for coal or oil world reserves. It has not been estimated yet. There are technological challenges of course, and certainly that makes it interesting. Deep oceans and methane hydrate are the future.


    Comment by H3 — 28 October 2008 @ 5:13 pm

  5. Hmmm, sounds interesting.
    Vinge’s presence and IBMs neural simulation sounded most interesting, as indeed the economic overview at the beginning of the summit.
    Good to see no one noticed the Virtual Physiological Human project over here in Europe – this at least offers a dark corner of genius untapped by these Californian types!
    That said, Im still pissed off with Bruce for inviting me then going off the radar!
    Sod it. Now I will have to see to it humanity perishes.
    Such is fate.
    So was anyone dealing with bio-informatics related topics?
    Thats where some of my head is now, as I feel the pressing need to keep alive long enough to see in such great marvels.

    Comment by omnidoom — 30 October 2008 @ 4:50 am

  6. >was anyone dealing with bio-informatics related topics?

    Esther Dyson covered this. Among many other roles, she’s a director of 23andMe.

    In her talk to the Summit, she spoke first about her forthcoming astronaut training in Russia (as covered here) and then about putting her own personal genome on the web (similar to what’s covered here).

    One thing she said that struck me was that our current understanding of the genome is akin to someone who understands just 90 words of the Russian language. That knowledge can help you out in a few circumstances in Russia, but very quickly lets you down. So there’s still a great deal of learning to come.

    She also spoke about Sergey Brin describing in his blog how he had found out from a test from 23andMe that he is genetically predisposed to Parkinson’s disease.

    >Vinge's presence and IBMs neural simulation sounded most interesting, as indeed the economic overview at the beginning of the summit

    The event was full of interesting talks. As I mentioned before, the talks by Pete Estep and Peter Diamandis (as also noted by Marios in his earlier comment, re the X Prize) were particularly fascinating.

    // dw2-0

    Comment by David Wood — 30 October 2008 @ 5:22 am

  7. Thanks for the information and links. DNA home sequencing kit creating-cosmonauts are not something you meet everyday!
    How extraordinary…

    Comment by omnidoom — 30 October 2008 @ 7:43 am

  8. For another review of the presentations from the summit, see this blog posting by Kevin Dick.

    Comment by David Wood — 31 October 2008 @ 4:04 am

  9. David,
    I was also at the summit and found it very eye opening. Thank you for your concise summary of the summit! I think you will find that the talk by Justin Rattner relating to digital radios finds some expression in Vinge’s book Rainbows End. There he describes virtual reality clothing (wearing), where the signals from another place on earth are beamed to the VR suit so that the user has a sense of being at that location. The enabler of that techology would be tiny digital radios at every place.

    Comment by nanojoe — 31 October 2008 @ 7:51 pm

  10. Hi Nanojoe,

    >I think you will find that the talk by Justin Rattner relating to digital radios finds some expression in Vinge's book Rainbows End. There he describes virtual reality clothing (wearing), where the signals from another place on earth are beamed to the VR suit so that the user has a sense of being at that location. The enabler of that techology would be tiny digital radios at every place.

    I agree that Rainbows End by Vinge book is well worth reading, for its (IMO) plausible account of this mid-term future technology. The story itself in Rainbows End is slightly disappointing, after a strong start, since parts were too complex to read easily, and too many loose ends existed at the end (presumably to leave room for a sequel). But the technology forecasting element of the book more than redeems it.

    However, the question first raised by Dean remains a good one: might there be bottlenecks in communication capacity that hinder progress towards the singularity?

    This question first came up at a meeting in London of the UKTA, where no-one could give a satisfactory answer; I still think this is a worthy subject for further research.

    // dw2-0

    Comment by David Wood — 2 November 2008 @ 7:47 pm

  11. David sir, I see a picture of you beside Peter Estep, the unearthly guy who believed he had won the MIT prize against Aubrey.
    Amazing to see him at this event, what was his view now of biomedical intervetions against aging???
    Id be fascinated to know –

    Comment by omnidoom — 5 November 2008 @ 10:34 pm

  12. Hi Omnidoom,

    >I see a picture of you beside Peter Estep, the unearthly guy who believed he had won the MIT prize against Aubrey.

    Amazing to see him at this event, what was his view now of biomedical intervetions against aging?

    I found Pete Estep to be a very interesting contributor at the summit. As I said in my original posting, Estep “gave perhaps one of the most thought-provoking presentations”.

    Unfortunately I didn’t have a chance for a deeper 1-1 conversation with him at the event. Nor did I realise (until you pointed it out) that Estep had been one of the people who wrote an essay criticising SENS in the Technology Review.

    However, I think that the Wikipedia article on Estep contains a good summary:

    “While critical of SENS and other anti-aging proposals, Estep is equally critical of the claim made by some in mainstream biogerontology that aging and/or death are incurable. He has challenged claimants to provide evidence for this assertion and points out the absence of evidence or physical law that might stand as a barrier to curing aging”.

    // dw2-0

    Comment by David Wood — 7 November 2008 @ 6:54 am

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